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G.E.M

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Tourney game 2 death toll
« on: October 11, 2016, 03:57:43 am »
For the game 2 death toll match, i have already discussed to alpha madree, she AGREED that moon young team could rematch against legacy within 2 days, not double forfeit since legacy team ddosed our match. so i dont understand why its unfair for us that we get a loss from game 2 and move on to game 3. is there some misunderstanding or what?

anyways the rematch is at 6:30am pst and 9:30am est

is there not any admin take any action of team legacy violating the rules by ddosing and offensive swearing / being rude? even the server admin admitted they were the one who ddosed.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=777886268
« Last Edit: October 11, 2016, 04:26:01 am by G.E.M »

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Re: Tourney game 2 death toll
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2016, 01:32:30 pm »
You can't rematch after the round end deadline. The rules literally could not be clearer about this.

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Re: Tourney game 2 death toll
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2016, 02:06:10 pm »
Agreed, you were asked to provide demos of this and never did, therefore the loss stands. For the future please refer to the rules listed Here

G.E.M

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Re: Tourney game 2 death toll
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2016, 06:30:55 pm »
well, like i said alpha madree already AGREED that we could have our rematch within 2 days since team legacy ddosed the server, even the server admin admitted that they did it. so i dunno why you guys are still allowing them to play this tourney, they are well-known asia ddosers. also, none of you guys gonna bother giving them penalty for offensive swearing and ddosing the match huh?______?

so whats the point of setting the rules and not giving them penalty, we dont deserve get 1 loss from that bullshit raged quit during match. we were going to have 1k point lead

prodigy - i think you got confused by asking demo from game 1? fyi i didnt play game 1

again -> http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=777886268

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Re: Tourney game 2 death toll
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2016, 03:03:34 am »
since team legacy ddosed the server, even the server admin admitted that they did it. so i dunno why you guys are still allowing them to play this tourney, they are well-known asia ddosers. also, none of you guys gonna bother giving them penalty for offensive swearing and ddosing the match huh?______?

Best for you to substantiate your claims before making them @GEM :D

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Posting this on behalf of a friend, the said server admin
« Last Edit: October 12, 2016, 03:46:28 am by dec »

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Re: Tourney game 2 death toll
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2016, 03:53:43 am »
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Hello.

I am server admin. Team Lagacy was DDoSing the server.

EDIT: This is sarcasm, just in case no one saw the quote. Please don't take this post seriously.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2016, 01:35:02 pm by 3yebex »

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Re: Tourney game 2 death toll
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2016, 05:32:14 am »
well, like i said alpha madree already AGREED that we could have our rematch within 2 days since team legacy ddosed the server, even the server admin admitted that they did it. so i dunno why you guys are still allowing them to play this tourney, they are well-known asia ddosers. also, none of you guys gonna bother giving them penalty for offensive swearing and ddosing the match huh?______?

so whats the point of setting the rules and not giving them penalty, we dont deserve get 1 loss from that bullshit raged quit during match. we were going to have 1k point lead

prodigy - i think you got confused by asking demo from game 1? fyi i didnt play game 1

again -> http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=777886268


If fig says no then it means no, disregard what any lesser tournament affiliate has to say. You cannot play games after the alloted week, it has always been this way and will always continue to be this way. If you want to claim a forfeit win then you need to provide a compelling account of why you should be awarded the win. Complaining that they hurt your feelings by using the F-word isn't really going to cut it.

That being said, I'm inclined to believe that legacy are the source of the ddosing on Asian servers and certain other servers/inviduals in the community.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2016, 08:16:23 am by Pariah »

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Re: Tourney game 2 death toll
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2016, 07:50:46 am »
Hello.

I am server admin. Team Lagacy was DDoSing the server.


http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198047874274 TorNado
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198291723599 get it (Team Legacy captain)

He using sub account join tournament (TorNado = get it(sub account) same ppl)
TorNado was use ddosing the hotmess server and the get banned (http://teamstk.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist tornado/cs, tornado/cs alt is TorNado)
« Last Edit: October 12, 2016, 08:19:08 am by gaz »

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Re: Tourney game 2 death toll
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2016, 07:52:43 am »
hey guys

Tornado is ddos attacker ?

Tornado is Banned Hot mess Server LOL

Tornado Link  http://steamcommunity.com/id/chrisdota2xcom/

http://teamstk.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist

Tornado = Legacy captain ?

« Last Edit: October 12, 2016, 07:58:11 am by Jockey »

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Re: Tourney game 2 death toll
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2016, 10:34:57 am »
If fig says no then it means no, disregard what any lesser tournament affiliate has to say.
There is no "lesser" tourney affiliate. So no, don't disregard what we say and stop giving stupid advise.

GEM: You failed to mention to me that prodigy/ghost (sorry, still getting used to the name change prodigy/ghost) asked you for a demo. That makes a huge difference. When you came to me I assumed that no one had answered you. So in light of ghost's request, I'm am taking back the extended offer.
As Fig mentioned, the tourney rules are to be regarded as the supreme boss and judge. It would be a good idea if you and your team read the rules and always take demos of each match. We can't just take your word or the word of an admin of some other server. In the future, before coming to us about a dispute with another team, you are going to need solid proof.



PRO TIP: Word of advise to each team, your entire team needs to be familiar with the tourney rules. Need a link to the rules AGAIN? It's already been provided in multiple threads.

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Re: Tourney game 2 death toll
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2016, 11:17:31 am »
We are playing against them this round. After knowing he's using smurf account and they ddosed the server last match, should we play?

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Re: Tourney game 2 death toll
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2016, 01:04:29 pm »
There is no "lesser" tourney affiliate. So no, don't disregard what we say and stop giving stupid advise.

GEM: You failed to mention to me that prodigy/ghost (sorry, still getting used to the name change prodigy/ghost) asked you for a demo. That makes a huge difference. When you came to me I assumed that no one had answered you. So in light of ghost's request, I'm am taking back the extended offer.
As Fig mentioned, the tourney rules are to be regarded as the supreme boss and judge. It would be a good idea if you and your team read the rules and always take demos of each match. We can't just take your word or the word of an admin of some other server. In the future, before coming to us about a dispute with another team, you are going to need solid proof.

PRO TIP: Word of advise to each team, your entire team needs to be familiar with the tourney rules. Need a link to the rules AGAIN? It's already been provided in multiple threads.

I'm not quite sure how you think you're in a position to question anyone else's ability to give advice, You just gave possibly the worst advice you could have given. How was it that in your mind they would be able to rematch 2 days after the deadline had passed and the new pairings had already been posted - pairings that were based on the fact that the match was recorded as a double forfeit. Whether they have a demo or not is entirely irrelivent, The deadline had passed and it doesn't matter how many demos they have, Demos don't turn back the clock.

I dont think that telling these people to pay attention to fig above all else is bad advice, Especially if you're going to be trying to overrule fig without having any kind of conversation with him about it before doing so. Clearly you're confused if you think i'm the one giving bad advice, my point was valid. You're also telling people that they need to ensure their teams are familiar with the rules. If you were familiar with the rules yourself then you'd know that suggesting a rematch after the deadline was a stupid idea.

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Re: Tourney game 2 death toll
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2016, 01:08:07 pm »
We are playing against them this round. After knowing he's using smurf account and they ddosed the server last match, should we play?

I messaged Fig regarding that, I'm sure he will make a decision soon enough and inform you.

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Re: Tourney game 2 death toll
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2016, 01:43:44 pm »
edit: Four things:

1. The unsportsmanlike behavior exhibited by Legacy (especially the offensive mm1ing) is totally unacceptable and they have had the fear of God put into them about it by me. We've been assured that it will not happen again.

2. We're taking the accusations of ddosing seriously and we'll continue to look hard at Legacy's matches to determine the best course of action.

3. The double forfeit from the last round stands.

4. Legacy's captain has been identified as the alt of Tornado, who is banned from Hot Mess. Therefore he is banned from the tournament.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2016, 01:56:50 pm by fig newtons »

 

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