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Left 4 Dead 2 / Re: Cold Course - The two best maps combined!
« on: September 11, 2019, 10:35:09 am »

General / The Brilliant Design of Left 4 Dead
« on: September 06, 2019, 01:01:06 am »
Core Ideas is a Youtube channel that posts a lot of high-quality content and I have subscribed mostly because of my passing but enduring interest in fighting games. So it was neat to see this pop up today. Enjoy

Confogl & Miscellaneous / Re: Zonemod 1.9.4
« on: July 09, 2019, 01:37:01 pm »

Unless Sir changed his mind, Zonemod will be private at least up to version 2.0
Typical  ::)

Left 4 Dead 3 / Re: Left 4 Dead 3 Screenshots
« on: May 18, 2019, 10:42:25 pm »
It's real, a map walkthrough just went up on youtube here:D

Left 4 Dead 2 / Re: RAGE COMICS ARE BACK!
« on: March 13, 2019, 01:00:52 pm »
if u guys cant keep ur posts comic / image-related and semi-funny im not gonna bother replying. and we all know im the only one that really even comes here.    

[Yesterday, 11:12 AM] jay:
   if i start throwing rocks at a lawyer does that mean i challenge him to legal battle, or a rock throwing battle

[Yesterday, 11:12 AM] fig:
   F off with that

[Yesterday, 11:12 AM] jay:
   its fairly obvious that you should adhere to the rules of the present venue

[Yesterday, 11:13 AM] fig:
   that's a great metaphor actually

[Yesterday, 11:13 AM] jay:
   glad u see it my way

[Yesterday, 11:13 AM] fig:
   because a lawyer would not throw rocks back, he would call police and get you arrested
   because you don't set the rules

Left 4 Dead 2 / Re: RAGE COMICS ARE BACK!
« on: March 11, 2019, 03:30:12 pm »
...have long since retired cuz as fig said its a thankless job. i can't imagine what they had to deal with on a daily basis. honestly if u ask me, looks like...its just rails being butthurt

Acknowledges the problem and in the next breath contributes to it. There's a paradigm case of the l4d2 community in action if I've ever seen one

Left 4 Dead 2 / Re: RAGE COMICS ARE BACK!
« on: March 10, 2019, 02:38:30 pm »
Alright so you're asking why their confidence is so high, not why the consensus is so high.

That's a fair question.

Left 4 Dead 2 / Re: RAGE COMICS ARE BACK!
« on: March 09, 2019, 07:07:50 pm »
It's not a 100% consensus but that doesn't matter because this shit isn't a democracy and it never was

You never have been able to understand that

Left 4 Dead 2 / Re: RAGE COMICS ARE BACK!
« on: March 06, 2019, 01:34:46 pm »
Whoa tensions are running high in here. Just a couple things;

1. Detecting cheating is difficult. When I was involved in the l4d2 community I tended to presume innocence because I wanted to avoid a witch-hunt mentality that goes along with the idea that "anyone could be hacking".
2. Aside from the existing "multi-hack" whisperer video that was published years ago, I have not seen any new evidence, nor am I aware of new evidence having been published anywhere.
3. I am not going to sit through all 30 odd minutes that video again. I watched the whole thing in slow motion several times when it was originally published and I was of sound mind then, so I trust that my judgment won't change if I look at it now. I saw nothing in that video that couldn't be explained with directional sound; if that's the best anyone could come up with after combing those demos looking for things to present in a suspicious light, then it amounts to no evidence whatsoever.
4. Therefore, I think I made the best decision I could at the time and I wouldn't change it now, if I could.
5. That I judged, then and now, that the evidence that has/had been presented publicly is insufficient to know that he did hack, does not in any way show that he didn't.
6. If Rails has seen new evidence that is still secret, I'm okay with that. Per #1, this shit is hard to get right. People like him do the best they can with limited information and with the community's best interests in mind. He gets tons of grief for doing a tedious and thankless job that nobody else wants to do. He made a different decision than I did. That's life. I respect his judgment and his intentions.
7. Regardless of having hacked or not, danne is and was a toxic weed in this community. His conduct was consistently disruptive and generally terrible. I'm not going to stick my neck out for reactionary bigots. I used to ban him from l4dnation for 6+ months at a time and he would always find a way to get banned for another long stretch shortly after his ban expired. Hacker or not, we're better off without him.
8. Per #6 and #7, this shit needs to die. Everyone should walk away from it. This decision has been made and the ship has sailed. If you want a tournament where he is allowed to play, run your own tournament.



Edit: /topic, not /thread. resume posting stupid memes

News / Re: Officially Announcing The Really Big Tournament #4!
« on: January 06, 2019, 06:38:39 pm »
Woah. Let's see if small fires of the dying community desperately trying to keep on burning will be albe to pull through this time around.
Lol. This clown posts this every. single. time. and always gets proven wrong, but he'll be back again next time I'm sure. :D

Hackers & Cheaters / Re: [L4D2] Is that Hack?
« on: June 26, 2018, 05:02:12 pm »
Yes, short of watching over the player's shoulder, a demo or livestream would be the best way to confirm it. It's true that a video can be edited. However, editing this to make it look exactly like an aimbot would be extremely difficult even for a professional, so I find it unlikely and not worth considering.

Hackers & Cheaters / Re: [L4D2] Is that Hack?
« on: June 23, 2018, 05:21:59 pm »
Yeah, that's an aimbot.

Left 4 Dead 2 / Re: Lets talk about glows!
« on: June 11, 2018, 08:19:25 pm »
I miss crxglows. Banning waits was stupid :(

Congrats to sorry 4 getting bravo on their win! Thanks to everyone for playing!

Since we recognize it's annoying to have to sign up for the same tournament twice, we want to clarify a point about the rosters.

For those teams that made it to playoffs, your roster in the Swiss section is effectively your roster in the knockout. That means you don't necessarily have to sign everyone up again.

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