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RE: Education
« on: July 04, 2016, 08:14:56 pm »
(Classical Education)

Hey whatsup men/women on l4dnation, I thought this would be a good idea to create a place on these forums for education, I for a long time wasn't at all founded in this area given my past, as a result I started trying to catch up on a lot of what I thought I was missing out on, luckily I'm just a kid still and I started getting it together at the age of 21; then I realized that others didn't actually have what they thought they had obtained.

I want to say first and foremost schooling is not an education, you may think you know something but the truth of the matter is, most people don't know what they actually dare I say "understand" so they draw a conclusion without knowledge, this is where conflict does actually stem from, there's a few proverbs that do indeed confirm this.

(Proverbs 13:10 Only by pride cometh contention: but with the well advised is wisdom.)
(Proverbs 29:23 A man’s pride shall bring him low: but honor shall uphold the humble in spirit.)

So without further ado, below are a few podcasts that I came across, there's some interesting material that I hope may help a lot of you, I try to stay away from foolish occults and opinions so if I may inquire to keep this part of the forum very reasonable and kept far away from sedition -
https://soundcloud.com/artofmanliness/189-the-classical-education-you-never-had
https://soundcloud.com/artofmanliness/episode-51-why-your-twenties?in=artofmanliness/sets/most-popular-podcasts

My personal take on getting a proper education would be (Epistemology, Latin, Hebrew.)

Linguistics - http://www.utexas.edu/cola/centers/lrc/eieol/latol-0.html

Nothing is really guaranteed, so you need to put some effort into what you want, this is for you guys out there who are just lost on what to do. http://www.openculture.com/freeonlinecourses

As for books you can search all you want throughout the entire world for self help, 11 billion dollars in 2008 was how much money people spent on self-improvement books. You will not find a better one than the Bible, do some research on it don't just believe me or anyone else, test its validity yourself.
     


(WARNING) - The writing above is not for people who think they have arrived, I do very much care for you but you're wasting your own time facing a worn out precedent. This is for people who are capable of intellectual honesty first with themselves then others.



P.S. - (The Bible for those that have a religious background or want an insight into psychology)

I have found no quarrel with the Bible but only the illiteracy found within fables spoken in churches, perhaps there is a misunderstanding. Examples - (Devil) = to slander, attack. (Satan) =  literally "one who throws (something) across" the path of another "plotter."In biblical sources the Hebrew term the satan describes an adversarial role.

It is not the name of a particular character. Although Hebrew storytellers as early as the sixth century B.C.E. occasionally introduced a supernatural character whom they called the satan.

My proof that the devil is indeed found in the details, It's nothing more than our own convictions,  we ourselves slander others and attempt to hold them down with us, why else would there be a reason for a conscience, when one can't feel anymore the compass of his/her soul they become psychotic, isn't that more concrete?

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=satan

We create our own problems and blame others, we engineer the monsters, is it not quite simple?
Below you'll find a statement of choice, a recurring thing that will indeed fix or harm the victim, the victim being himself or herself can only be recovered when they are brought back to the ability of understanding they always have a choice, Just food for thought.

(Proof first by using etymology, and now by using the Bible, Isaiah 66:4)

I also will choose their delusions,
and will bring their fears upon them;
because when I called, none did answer;
when I spake, they did not hear:
but they did evil before mine eyes,
and chose that in which I delighted not.

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Re: RE: Education
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2016, 08:31:07 pm »
Did you know Donkey’s sometimes talk. It’s in the Bible I swear.

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Re: RE: Education
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2016, 08:38:19 pm »
grizz ur fucking crazy

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« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2016, 08:40:31 pm »
education =/= religion

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« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2016, 10:13:29 pm »
I highly encourage you to seek help in the form of a mental health professional.


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Re: RE: Education
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2016, 01:56:23 am »
Swib can u give grizz his account back pls?

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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2016, 03:43:43 am »
Open Culture sounds like a great resource.

I have to wonder if (Epistemology, Latin, Hebrew) would really make for a well-rounded education though. Philosophy is definitely nice to have, but unless you're interested in advanced study of Biblical revisions through time I doubt the latter two will come in handy. Plenty of texts already cover multiple translations of most known historical documents in Hebrew. I do wonder why you would skip over Greek, though. There's actually a fair amount of old Greek literature in this area as well (non-canon gospels and such).

But yeah, Math and Science are also pretty nice to have I think. As far as philosophy goes, I think Ethics is a very good realm to study. There's a lot anyone can gain from learning the basic ethical arguments and how they are applied. Some of it might even fall in line with your interests (Virtue Ethics, or perhaps even Kantianism). A hard-line logic course is also a good recommendation with anyone unfamiliar (but a good intro to ethics course will cover some of this as well).

 
I have to wonder why you have such an emphasis on historic texts and languages though. I hope this isn't some sort of Dan Brown-esque quest to find hidden meaning in texts of old.

Our minds are built to find patterns, correlations. We're very adept at it, it's a strong survival skill. But, correlation does not imply causation. Going overboard with trying to find connections can be prohibitive to normal life. Even I have to remind myself sometimes that patterns I believe to see are probably not there--and more importantly don't really have an impact on me being able to live, work, and thrive.

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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2016, 02:16:35 pm »

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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2016, 05:49:33 pm »
Open Culture sounds like a great resource.

I have to wonder if (Epistemology, Latin, Hebrew) would really make for a well-rounded education though. Philosophy is definitely nice to have, but unless you're interested in advanced study of Biblical revisions through time I doubt the latter two will come in handy. Plenty of texts already cover multiple translations of most known historical documents in Hebrew. I do wonder why you would skip over Greek, though. There's actually a fair amount of old Greek literature in this area as well (non-canon gospels and such).

But yeah, Math and Science are also pretty nice to have I think. As far as philosophy goes, I think Ethics is a very good realm to study. There's a lot anyone can gain from learning the basic ethical arguments and how they are applied. Some of it might even fall in line with your interests (Virtue Ethics, or perhaps even Kantianism). A hard-line logic course is also a good recommendation with anyone unfamiliar (but a good intro to ethics course will cover some of this as well).

 
I have to wonder why you have such an emphasis on historic texts and languages though. I hope this isn't some sort of Dan Brown-esque quest to find hidden meaning in texts of old.

Our minds are built to find patterns, correlations. We're very adept at it, it's a strong survival skill. But, correlation does not imply causation. Going overboard with trying to find connections can be prohibitive to normal life. Even I have to remind myself sometimes that patterns I believe to see are probably not there--and more importantly don't really have an impact on me being able to live, work, and thrive.

Translation: grizz its nice that you have discovered a new interest in the form of seeking knowledge, but why don't you go learn useful shit.

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Re: RE: Education
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2016, 07:17:45 pm »
Translation: grizz its nice that you have discovered a new interest in the form of seeking knowledge, but why don't you go learn useful shit.

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Re: RE: Education
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2016, 07:30:26 pm »
So this is what happens when you play 10,000 hours of L4D2...

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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2016, 09:29:50 pm »
Not even. Thanks for playing!

I have to wonder if.... I do wonder why you would skip over... I have to wonder why you have such an emphasis....

Yeah, you sure do wonder a lot about the kind of material hes chosen to fill himself with.

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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2016, 11:11:41 pm »
I have to wonder if.... I do wonder why you would skip over... I have to wonder why you have such an emphasis....

Yeah, you sure do wonder a lot about the kind of material hes chosen to fill himself with.
Translation: I don't even understand that my shitposting is shitposting. What I say is just as worthwhile as anyone else.

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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2016, 11:49:34 pm »

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Re: RE: Education
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2016, 12:34:53 am »

 

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