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Re: Interest In a L4D1 Tourney Supporting L4D2 Teams?
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2013, 05:51:11 pm »
I would personally rather see a l4d2 fixed, (meaning fix spawn orders) retro config tourny on l4d2 maps. I feel like it would be a lot of fun.

I'm sure I'll get hate from l4d1 players for this but meh.

Played the config as a L4D1 player it just doesn't felt like L4D1 and isn't the idea from Jacob to bring the old memories back?

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Re: Interest In a L4D1 Tourney Supporting L4D2 Teams?
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2013, 06:05:45 pm »
I would personally rather see a l4d2 fixed, (meaning fix spawn orders) retro config tourny on l4d2 maps. I feel like it would be a lot of fun.

I'm sure I'll get hate from l4d1 players for this but meh.

Well if you wanna play l4d1 in l4d2 on the l4d1 maps(wtf :D) try the scarecrow cfg we have on all sir please servers including the NY ones.
Only pump and uzi,only L4D1 infected..
But if you want me to be honest...If i wanna play l4d1 i go play it and not try to emulate it in l4d2.
L4d2 and its mapdesign is complete different compared to l4d1 and would just take the fun out of the maps.
If you wanna play something different in L4D2 go play custom campaigns .

Also i forgot to mention regarding jacobs tourny plans:Custom Campaigns??Pretty Pleeeeeze?Suicide Blitz,City 17 and some others are pretty sexy and are actually a lot more fun then just playing Death toll,harvest or dead air all over again and again.
It also could balance a bit the so-called "skill differences" as you mentioned since the old teams if there are any out there woudl have to adapt at least a bit new shit to their old routine.

Would lend a hand or two with preparing the stuff if needed since in the actuall EU league noone really cared about fixing stuff etc and just left it as it is what is in some spots kinda retarded imo.

« Last Edit: April 22, 2013, 06:09:32 pm by nikeon »

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Re: Interest In a L4D1 Tourney Supporting L4D2 Teams?
« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2013, 06:16:15 pm »
Well if you wanna play l4d1 in l4d2 on the l4d1 maps(wtf :D) try the scarecrow cfg we have on all sir please servers including the NY ones.
Only pump and uzi,only L4D1 infected..
But if you want me to be honest...If i wanna play l4d1 i go play it and not try to emulate it in l4d2.
L4d2 and its mapdesign is complete different compared to l4d1 and would just take the fun out of the maps.
If you wanna play something different in L4D2 go play custom campaigns .

Also i forgot to mention regarding jacobs tourny plans:Custom Campaigns??Pretty Pleeeeeze?Suicide Blitz,City 17 and some others are pretty sexy and are actually a lot more fun then just playing Death toll,harvest or dead air all over again and again.
It also could balance a bit the so-called "skill differences" as you mentioned since the old teams if there are any out there woudl have to adapt at least a bit new shit to their old routine.

Would lend a hand or two with preparing the stuff if needed since in the actuall EU league noone really cared about fixing stuff etc and just left it as it is what is in some spots kinda retarded imo.

Of course. :p
You are talking to THEE custom campaign king. In fact whenever you get on steam I wanna talk to you about something.

As for the config- I will make the decision on this based on what I think will be the best for everyone. I would like to see both configs (assuming there are only 2) and compare them before I make a decision.

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Re: Interest In a L4D1 Tourney Supporting L4D2 Teams?
« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2013, 06:23:31 pm »
Rotoblin = Brainless rush without survivor tactics
Rowtow = Trying to bring some old tactics back like molotov, HR and searching for stuff everything nerfed of course + more tank HP

It's my opinion!!!
« Last Edit: April 22, 2013, 06:27:23 pm by Hoernchen »

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Re: Interest In a L4D1 Tourney Supporting L4D2 Teams?
« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2013, 06:42:02 pm »
I would personally rather see a l4d2 fixed, (meaning fix spawn orders) retro config tourny on l4d2 maps. I feel like it would be a lot of fun.


Played the config as a L4D1 player it just doesn't felt like L4D1 and isn't the idea from Jacob to bring the old memories back?


There's also a group of folks porting the L4D2 maps into L4D1, which has been ongoing for a loooong time but looks to be winding down (if their to-do list is to be believed, it seems like finishing up nav meshes is the biggest hurdle left?)

I've personally been looking forward to this for AGES and I really hope that these guys come through. For now, you can play The Parish maps 1 and 2.

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Re: Interest In a L4D1 Tourney Supporting L4D2 Teams?
« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2013, 07:05:48 pm »
There's also a group of folks porting the L4D2 maps into L4D1, which has been ongoing for a loooong time but looks to be winding down (if their to-do list is to be believed, it seems like finishing up nav meshes is the biggest hurdle left?)

I've personally been looking forward to this for AGES and I really hope that these guys come through. For now, you can play The Parish maps 1 and 2.


I saw a video from them and some competitive player said hey does it work in Rotoblin and Versus and the creator said something like this I dont like competitive L4D players and I just wanna have these maps for campaign mode and vanilla versus.

Found the video Left 4 Dead: The Parish - Finale Preview

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Re: Interest In a L4D1 Tourney Supporting L4D2 Teams?
« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2013, 07:25:48 pm »
Not a big deal as longas it has some kind of vs support.Even if not its possible but honestly would be too much work for too less in the end.

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Re: Interest In a L4D1 Tourney Supporting L4D2 Teams?
« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2013, 07:30:52 pm »
Not a big deal as longas it has some kind of vs support.Even if not its possible but honestly would be too much work for too less in the end.

Pretty much. I think that was more of a catch-all "it's not our job to make your gameplay mod work with our maps."

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Re: Interest In a L4D1 Tourney Supporting L4D2 Teams?
« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2013, 09:28:38 am »
I would love this.

Rotoblin = Brainless rush without survivor tactics
Rowtow = Trying to bring some old tactics back like molotov, HR and searching for stuff everything nerfed of course + more tank HP

It's my opinion!!!

Also, I agree with this. Old Frus (before they made HR easy mode) was the most fun config IMO back then. Just added some flavor to the game :3 If a config could imitate that but incorporate some higher level of difficulty like hc roto did, it would be boss.
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Re: Interest In a L4D1 Tourney Supporting L4D2 Teams?
« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2013, 10:59:51 am »
Latest Rowtow Config:

Tank has 6500HP
Molotov only burns the tank for a short time I think It's 10 seconds (1000damage)
You can find 4-6 pills on the maps and you start with only 1 starter pills except map 1 (with 2)
No Tank slowdown
Nerfed Hunting Rifle (7/89 Bullets) + Fire slowdown (feels like the L4D2 Scout)

Just the fact that you don't rush the whole map because you search for pills makes L4D more interesting.


I played now a lot pcws on this config and nothing feels OP and hey L4D doesn't feel like CoD too bad a lot players who started L4D Competitive late 2010 with Rotoblin disagree with the config.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2013, 11:05:57 am by Hoernchen »

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Re: Interest In a L4D1 Tourney Supporting L4D2 Teams?
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2013, 11:41:30 am »
Neat! The pills rules sound kind of like Xbox's Find Your Own Medkit ruleset, which always sounded interesting to me because it made the earlier medkits much more useful.

Edit: I also really like the 100 dps for 10 seconds molotov: it's worth it to throw at that damage rating, is somewhat balanced out by / balances out the lack of tank slowdown, and adds back in a game mechanic that's quite different from other mechanics and  thus quite interesting in my opinion (aiming with throwables/grenades).

I think putting valuable items into the map like this can really re-introduce L4D to some of its roots, and I look forward to playing this sometime.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2013, 11:49:46 am by Icy Inferno »

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Re: Interest In a L4D1 Tourney Supporting L4D2 Teams?
« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2013, 12:19:53 pm »
I like rotoblin, and I've been playing since early 2009... I think rotoblin is the most balanced config. I don't really like the idea of running around for the pills, but tbh I've only played 4-5 games of rowtow, since I haven't played that much the last year or so... So I can't really say which config I would prefer.

About custom campaigns; I think most L4D1 players are very open towards custom campaigns, since they've been a part of tournaments and also some times mixes and PCWs for a long long time... I remember Thug hosting some weekend custom campaign tournaments back in 2010 or something like that.

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Re: Interest In a L4D1 Tourney Supporting L4D2 Teams?
« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2013, 12:25:57 pm »
Latest Rowtow Config:

Tank has 6500HP
Molotov only burns the tank for a short time I think It's 10 seconds (1000damage)
You can find 4-6 pills on the maps and you start with only 1 starter pills except map 1 (with 2)
No Tank slowdown
Nerfed Hunting Rifle (7/89 Bullets) + Fire slowdown (feels like the L4D2 Scout)

Just the fact that you don't rush the whole map because you search for pills makes L4D more interesting.


I played now a lot pcws on this config and nothing feels OP and hey L4D doesn't feel like CoD too bad a lot players who started L4D Competitive late 2010 with Rotoblin disagree with the config.

IF ONLY WE COULD HAVE THIS IN L4D2, HMMMMMMMMMMMM

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Re: Interest In a L4D1 Tourney Supporting L4D2 Teams?
« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2013, 01:16:38 am »
How do you even find a current L4D config pack? Use to be easy when Rotoblin has its own google code page.

Where's a pack with up to date plugins and rowtow config? ready where infected can move, gradual pill health, griffins stats plugin, tank announce if that exists and whatever is the newest rowtow thing these days.

What even is the standard anymore.

http://www.l4dnation.com/l4d1-discussion/scrim-server-files/

is that up to date?
« Last Edit: April 25, 2013, 01:32:36 am by Jekt »

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Re: Interest In a L4D1 Tourney Supporting L4D2 Teams?
« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2013, 10:54:46 am »
How do you even find a current L4D config pack? Use to be easy when Rotoblin has its own google code page.

Where's a pack with up to date plugins and rowtow config? ready where infected can move, gradual pill health, griffins stats plugin, tank announce if that exists and whatever is the newest rowtow thing these days.

What even is the standard anymore.

http://www.l4dnation.com/l4d1-discussion/scrim-server-files/

is that up to date?


Take a look here "ftp://joint.myftp.org/tools/" you should have there all necessary plugins, i will put there the updated rowtow config soon.

 

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