RBWT 2015 Playoffs

[Killerbeast]

sSs > Alerion

11:34 AM - Danne: we forfeit
11:34 AM - Danne: gg
11:34 AM - Killerbeast: rly?
11:34 AM - Danne: yep
11:34 AM - Killerbeast: well then
11:34 AM - Killerbeast: ok
11:34 AM - Killerbeast: lol

[alexi21]

Vroom vs Apollyon tonight at 9pm est. 



#bringbackwhatevaz

[pinkdonutofDOOM]

sSs > Alerion

R.I.P. Danne's dream

[Kissme]

#bringbackwhatevaz

We can only hope that the mighty Fig listens to our request ;-;

[NF]

sSs > Alerion

11:34 AM - Danne: we forfeit
11:34 AM - Danne: gg
11:34 AM - Killerbeast: rly?
11:34 AM - Danne: yep
11:34 AM - Killerbeast: well then
11:34 AM - Killerbeast: ok
11:34 AM - Killerbeast: lol

What the fuck?

[iamSun]

Yes,

What the actual fuck?

Suddenly RIP Alerion?

[atomicsheep]

did they forfeit one game or the entire BO3 match?

[fig newtons]

Alerion forfeited because of an unfortunate combination of real-life events screwing everything up for them. Killerbeast had been tearing his hair out trying to get the match scheduled, but there was nothing Danne could do about it since it was real life stuff and out of their control.

That's a less-than-ideal situation from the standpoint of the tournament, obviously -- especially the spectators. However, the alternatives all seem to be worse. Bravo said his would be willing to step up, and there was some logic to that since he'd lost to Alerion by such a microscopic margin. But I'm already unhappy about having the playoffs extend the tournament by an extra month as it is, and that would mean extending the tournament even more. On the other hand, forcing TSSS to play the match this weekend would have been grossly unfair to them, so that was out of the question: after such a lengthy struggle to schedule the match with Alerion, I'd have been saying "j/k you don't FFW, you have to play Bravo instead!"

Under those circumstances, I asked Killerbeast if his team would be able to play a match with Bravo's team where TSSS would have a 1 game advantage. It was a lot to ask: TSSS had been keeping their IRL schedules clear for two full weeks waiting for a match schedule to happen with Alerion, only to have it never materialize. I know what it's like to balance real-life obligations under that and it's not fun. Besides, it was never their fault that Alerion couldn't play the match, and so they would be accepting a match with a team that lost in the quarter-finals whereas they had won.

In retrospect, I never should have asked at all. It's not Killerbeast's responsibility to make these kinds of decisions; it's mine. All I did was put them in the awkward situation of having to take an extra match they had no real obligation to accept, or else get egged by everyone for "dodging" even though they did nothing of the sort.

Giving them the option was just me trying to pass the buck, and I'm sorry for that. I apologized to Killerbeast directly already, and I want to extend my apologies to everyone else now. I messed up.

The fact is, TSSS deserve to be in the finals as much as Apollyon.  They had a win over Alerion in the swiss; they won their quarter-final match fair and square; and they did everything in their power to schedule in the semi-finals. The Grand Finals will be between Spectacular Soy Sauce vs Apollyon, and as regrettable as it is that we got cheated by fate out of an exciting semi-final match, I'm looking forward to the Grand Finals.

I am not happy that I'm now partly responsible for certain people engaging in juvenile playground jeering against TSSS, since they did everything that could reasonably be expected of them. I'm extremely disappointed with it regardless and I won't tolerate it here. The responsibility is with me only.

[notbravo]

I am not saying I am unhappy with the decision because this tournament was created with the intention of just fun, nothing else.  What I will say is that as an admin you have the power to make decisions and overrule such circumstances to better your own tournament.  Now I am not sure what schedules killerbeast or luckyluck or evol have, but I am sure that if they really wanted to with the amount of hours they have played in the last 2 weeks which is well over 200 hours combined, they could have put aside and spent 2-3 hours within the time span of 3 days to play 2 games (possibly one if they win it). 

Again, good luck to them and as you said fig, this should have never been their call.  It should have been your call.  When a team steps out of a tournament and you are left empty handed, you get the next best thing.  Cooljerks team forfeited a finals game of some tournament I cannot recall at the moment and the admins put in the runner ups, it should have never been the choice of the opposing team.  Lets all be honest here, if they scheduled with alerion this late into the week im sure it would have been played during the weekend anyways.

I look forward to this post being taken down so that you can continue running a corrupt system for a game that has less teams then I can count with one hand.

[NF]

I agree that team whatevaz should be put in to replace alerion.

[Lustyun]

I agree as well. You have to earn your place in grand finals. Doesn't matter what team you play to get there in semi-finals. There also should be no game advantage for TSSS.

[Dusty]

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I understand your point of view, but I don't think what people had said warranted bans or deleting their posts. It didn't seem like harassment or a personal attack. Just people opinions on what has happened.

As for the game, sad days for the viewers.  Not to come off as rudely, but I see most tournaments as some fun to be had playing and watching, not as bragging rights or sicknasty boomer plushie victories

[iamSun]

fig, why you even post this giant pointless text? Thought you trying to explain why you have to act like human being in this situation but you done opposite.

[ElusivΣ]

I understand your point of view, but I don't think what people had said warranted bans or deleting their posts. It didn't seem like harassment or a personal attack. Just people opinions on what has happened.

As for the game, sad days for the viewers.  Not to come off as rudely, but I see most tournaments as some fun to be had playing and watching, not as bragging rights or sicknasty boomer plushie victories

What a nice kid and very understanding

[Kissme]

I will throw myself under the bus here with Fig.

When I first caught wind of Alerion pulling out of the tournament I went to Bravo and Fig and told Bravo that he should ask Fig about Whatevaz taking their spot.  I then also asked Fig if he would be OK with such an event happening.  We talked about it and came to the conclusion that it would be best for TSSS to make the decision since technically they won the match, by whatever means, and no rules stated they were inclined to have to play the runner-ups.  I 100% supported Fig and his call to ask Killerbeast and not out-right say 'TSSS is now playing Whatevaz'.  Had there of been a rule that stated 'In the case of a drop-out in playoffs, the runner up would be put into the drop-outs spot', then obviously that would have been the situation and from the looks of things, would have been the better way to go about it.

I can not say that I was the only person that Fig bounced the idea off of, but I will say that I was one that supported his idea and actions and still do in this situation.  I also felt as Dusty does that it would suck for viewers and tournament appearance, but with no rule against it, I felt that it would be unfair for TSSS to be forced into it, when by tournament rules, they did win their match.

Hind-sight is 20-20 and I am more than certain that a clause reflecting this situation will be put into the rules for future tournaments as it was already talked about in PM.

Once again, I am sorry for putting TSSS and Whatevaz in this situation.  My insight was wrongly misguided by what I thought would be fair for TSSS and it ended up doing more harm than good.

#scumbagkissme