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Re: We found some new evidence
« Reply #60 on: May 26, 2017, 06:35:09 pm »
I mean he should be able to voice his opinion without getting banned, saying people are idiots on l4dnation or an idiot if you don't agree with him while is being obnoxious, don't think it's deserving of a ban.



I agree and I think a permanent ban is also overkill in this case.

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Re: We found some new evidence
« Reply #61 on: May 26, 2017, 06:50:19 pm »
Here are my final thoughts on the subject.

The way the other thread was started and handled was far from perfect.  Orppo is far from a good conversationalist and im not the type to state my case in a civil manner when someone isnt being civil themselves.

As far as the l4d2 clips were concerned my first impressions were this is 99% nonsense and every clip is explainable and the other 1% is the anomoly which I still think any player can have.

As for the cs clip my first thought when I watched it was a straight up wtf?  Now there are aimlocks which people have complained pro cs players have (flusha, shox, kjaerbye, etc...) but these guys have 2-3 good ones from literally thousands of matches.  So you can see how they can be dismissed.  Danne on the other hand I looked at with the thought of the entire game but that one moment was absolutely underwhelming for someone who is supposedly cheating.

I admit I got carried away with a group like mentality and joined in on making a joke out of this and making memes upon memes but the truth is if this was my community I would rule the l4d2 evidence as inconclusive which brings me to my final point, consistency.  This community seems to lack consistency when it comes to admins on rulings for bans.  I accept that much of this is case by case and it is impossible to write a rule book or something but even so it is still inconsistent.  I tell visor to fuck off I get perma banned.  I get unpermabanned.  I tell grizz to suck a dick I get an 8 month ban while in the same thread someone does much worse and gets a 2 week ban.  Im sure I can ask around for more examples of action vs punishment to see if they seem to match up but somehow im sure they wont.  For fucks sake im literally on an account "totallynotbravo" and im still not banned.

fight night on sunday You filthy ape.


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Re: We found some new evidence
« Reply #62 on: May 26, 2017, 07:12:50 pm »
I mean he should be able to voice his opinion without getting banned, saying people are idiots on l4dnation or an idiot if you don't agree with him while is being obnoxious, don't think it's deserving of a ban.

8:04 PM - TO CATCH A BANNE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DINEbkoR7Rw&feature=youtu.be
8:04 PM - TO CATCH A BANNE: what do you think?
8:04 PM - DustY: gone
8:04 PM - TO CATCH A BANNE: LMAO

Aye matey that be what I said, it was hilarious.

BUT.... I also said this to you warning you on how you talk to people.

DustY: The way you talk to people is so demeaning, I almost think about not posting to spite you.
I dont really care if people ask if I got no spine or what people get away with, I talk about what I please and what I think.
I dont care what you think or your opinion on how americans are spineless or your thinking of that I have to agree with you.

Looks like admins got tired of that. I gave my opinion. and I tried to say to everyone that you are acting silly.

It's a shame you decided to make personal chats forum public. I'll give you the response to that short hand, that I was going to give you a little later.

The way you deal with people you claim to care about and your issues with control are revolting, but that has got nothing to do with having a common interest and presenting facts. It's easy to criticise when you do nothing.

The issue here is that I motivated the campaign to clearly demonstrate it, and that's it. It was Purple doing most of the work, personally, that night, demonstrating he cheats.
You ofc, made your comment, kept your head down, then made a middle of the road comment here. As usual.

I didn't disrupt admins, what an utter spew of nonsense.
Scalar and Queen came to the channel I was in and Scalar talked about how cool he was with my behaviour.
What tipped it this night, is because the last two credible people (Bravo and Purple) that were giving Danne any benefit of the doubt went 100 percent +.
And Vol couldn't have any more credible excuses to keep his minimum wage worker without the minimum wage, without also clearly making his own rules and principles look like junk in light of Aimbot Danne the hypocrite admin.
No more "I'm watching guys and yes it's clearly being debated, so I was right not to act. (How fortunate for my self interest and I can still have a pretence of principles.)"

This would have been done in 10 minutes with some unknown pleb here.

This is how you go, and the typical responses you get, when you're slaying the nonsense at the top of the pyramid.

And ofc here, it doesn't matter much, it's a child's pyramid in the sand, which makes it fun and interesting to pressure test on it's own principles. People almost always without exception, act the same way, depending on their relative positions on that scale. That's why there's a mass of people banned for a fraction of what this aimbot petty thief (or at least brags about it, which tbh is even more embarrassing for him hahaha) has been clearly proven to have done.
And ofc, the typical response. You try and shut up the person motivating the campaign to demonstrate and say it all. Again, typical. Again weak, cause it ain't gonna work out like that is it vollly wolly?

Anybody not getting the facts? Come and talk to the people that actually know, and they will explain it to you if you care (and they still care to), without you jumping around like worms in a can looking for any misdirection possible. If you actually want more evidence, go to ask the aimbot beast himself, watch him get the bucket of shit out for you to eat in terror over this "witch hunt" that he claims he "couldn't care less about". Nom Nom Nom turd bucket. Nom Nom Nom

Vol doesn't care about principle or his own rules. He cares about easy owner life and invested ego and feeling I'm dictating what should be done on his servers when all he's doing is make himself look an immense hypocrite.
The squirming and lost erm.. haha rep? is the result and where it's all at and interesting to watch.
If Vol actually gave a fuck about Danne he'd ban him, give him the chance to possibly start cold turkey from l4d2/net, and let him get on with his life, instead he'd rather keep him working like a good boy and watch the realisation of cold hard demonstrated facts settle in amongst the crowd.
RC, Deli and Rurouni all told "respectfully" (bhhahahaha, come on man get some spine) "no". Look daft much Volly?
Why don't you man up and just change the Hot Piss rules to "Danne does dogs work so it's alright he hacks"
Weak.

But now. I have to suffer the endless torments of being banned from some servers of a game I don't play.

Was, as always, a pleasure.
mwaaaaaaaaah
« Last Edit: May 26, 2017, 07:22:27 pm by Orrpo THE Monster »

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Re: We found some new evidence
« Reply #63 on: May 26, 2017, 07:59:37 pm »
>makes thread to get someone banned
>ends up getting permabanned

Never lucky

Never went to get him banned. I explained my motivation. It's a fact, and me and others showed it. I have no problem going 20 v 1 in a mumble or this thread, if the long list know it's true and just don't give a fuck educating you. They clearly don't love you as much as I do, to tell you about it (at least not as often), ha.
You can even hear in the video I say "they don't have to ban him"
Vol pays for his own servers, he can do what he wants with them. It's this crap about rules, principles and community he drones on about, that can get blasted into space. Just change your rules to "Danne cheats". It's the spine filled decision.

 I think telling Rurouni to effectively F off was a bit of a scumbag move tho, considering he pays for the EU servers. Proper low. Which explains Rurouni's behaviour since.

Getting banned (from servers in a game I don't play in), demonstrates the reality of a large portion of what I'm saying.

I mean he should be able to voice his opinion without getting banned, saying people are idiots on l4dnation or an idiot if you don't agree with him while is being obnoxious, don't think it's deserving of a ban.

I never insulted or called anyone idiots Dusty other than perhaps the later end of the original thread, when the point had gotten across and it was time to just respond to all the drivel nonsense spewed out.
 Anyone knows here, that knows me well enough, if it's a contest of insults they'd get smoked. Look at how I replied for ages. I've no time for smashing people in a contest of insults when they are probably sometimes literally shaking while trying to talk shit on mumble.
 If you're referring to what I typed to you? Well, that would have nothing to do with the ban would it, as it was personal chats, hmm? Yes? And yeah. If you were referring to that. You said he cheated, and you were doing nothing. That's insulting to everyone including yourself


 If they want to they get smoked on the facts of this too, np either, if they are coming with a claimed complete incredulous attitude of nonsense, which is just straight up weakling behaviour.
This is just, once again, more nonsense. I came to demonstrate, I did demonstrate and then later on the thread it was troll time son after hearing the brigade bang on for a bunch of pages straight.
The truth of this is easily proven, in as much as, Miro, Vector, Bravo, Purple and myself were in a mumble talking civilly. That session turned out alright ;)
I've no problem not trolling at all, but to start mouthing shit and then not expect some spankage, is just reckless.
« Last Edit: May 26, 2017, 08:11:21 pm by Orrpo THE Monster »

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Re: We found some new evidence
« Reply #64 on: May 26, 2017, 08:04:55 pm »
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Re: We found some new evidence
« Reply #65 on: May 26, 2017, 08:08:58 pm »
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Re: We found some new evidence
« Reply #66 on: May 26, 2017, 08:15:04 pm »
y'all need to just say fuck all this shit about danne, gtf outside and enjoy the summer cuz some of you are trippin too hardcore over this imo.  word to what dusty said about hearing out other peeps input and opinions.

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Re: We found some new evidence
« Reply #67 on: May 26, 2017, 08:24:05 pm »
Here are my final thoughts on the subject.

The way the other thread was started and handled was far from perfect.  Orppo is far from a good conversationalist and im not the type to state my case in a civil manner when someone isnt being civil themselves.

As far as the l4d2 clips were concerned my first impressions were this is 99% nonsense and every clip is explainable and the other 1% is the anomoly which I still think any player can have.

As for the cs clip my first thought when I watched it was a straight up wtf?  Now there are aimlocks which people have complained pro cs players have (flusha, shox, kjaerbye, etc...) but these guys have 2-3 good ones from literally thousands of matches.  So you can see how they can be dismissed.  Danne on the other hand I looked at with the thought of the entire game but that one moment was absolutely underwhelming for someone who is supposedly cheating.

I admit I got carried away with a group like mentality and joined in on making a joke out of this and making memes upon memes but the truth is if this was my community I would rule the l4d2 evidence as inconclusive which brings me to my final point, consistency.  This community seems to lack consistency when it comes to admins on rulings for bans.  I accept that much of this is case by case and it is impossible to write a rule book or something but even so it is still inconsistent.  I tell visor to fuck off I get perma banned.  I get unpermabanned.  I tell grizz to suck a dick I get an 8 month ban while in the same thread someone does much worse and gets a 2 week ban.  Im sure I can ask around for more examples of action vs punishment to see if they seem to match up but somehow im sure they wont.  For fucks sake im literally on an account "totallynotbravo" and im still not banned.

fight night on sunday You filthy ape.


It's ok.  You meme'd well my son

« Last Edit: May 26, 2017, 08:27:00 pm by ElusivΣ »

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Re: We found some new evidence
« Reply #68 on: May 26, 2017, 09:08:28 pm »
Elusive, right on my man. I've been suppin beer in the sun. Gots me an ice cream earlier. OOOh yeah. Immense. I beast out a reply, looking on the mobile and desktop and watch the bubbles pop up.
Yeah Bravo got teh Meme guilt. Lad needs a rest. It was a big day yesterday for him.


Me too
Had me laughing so fucking hard last night in meme paradise

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Re: We found some new evidence
« Reply #69 on: May 26, 2017, 09:18:35 pm »
This wouldn't be a problem if Thomas Jefferson didn't fuck John Adam's in George Washington's Camaro in 1776.

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Re: We found some new evidence
« Reply #70 on: May 26, 2017, 10:03:42 pm »
This wouldn't be a problem if Thomas Jefferson didn't fuck John Adam's in George Washington's Camaro in 1776.

That's it Psim, you're getting it lad. That was no justification for Madison to dox Jefferson though

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Re: We found some new evidence
« Reply #71 on: May 27, 2017, 03:30:29 am »
Whether you think he cheats or not, you guys realize you look childish when you proclaim that your opinion
is the right one. You look like monkeys flinging their shit at each other. Voice your opinion, feel free to disagree
with someone, if you make a decent counter-argument. But stop with the "obedient dog, lol wut they smoking haHA" please.
It doesn't make your opinion look stronger, it makes you (and by association your argument) weaker since you have no idea how to behave yourself with a disagreement.
People can have opinions, people can have as many opinions as they like, but the truth is one though.

And besides there wasn't really any decent arguments justifying any of this moments from previous video. Besides of obvious stuff like locking on commons behind walls, there was advanced arguments from Xnider, Vector and other people but they didn't get adressed either. There is no discussion actually - people who are not sure banne is cheating don't really provide anything thought provoking, just meme'ing (not like other side is not guilty of that though) / stonewalling. Nor they made research about "demos of other players having same moments" which is false and upon which entire danne's team base his defense.

There wasn't need for more evidence, sigh
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Re: We found some new evidence
« Reply #72 on: May 27, 2017, 03:56:33 am »
tourney winners cheating? unheard of.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC1Z8cHK7fQ&t=5s&list=PLMWD15X2GbnIZRNTVWYxJ-sdo8WE_8ulv&index=14

1:28:23 - 1:28:30


How did he know that the jockey was there?

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Re: We found some new evidence
« Reply #73 on: May 27, 2017, 05:41:44 am »



How did he know that the jockey was there?
Ping advantage.

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Re: We found some new evidence
« Reply #74 on: May 27, 2017, 08:17:23 am »
tourney winners cheating? unheard of.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC1Z8cHK7fQ&t=5s&list=PLMWD15X2GbnIZRNTVWYxJ-sdo8WE_8ulv&index=14

1:28:23 - 1:28:30


How did he know that the jockey was there?

turn up the sound, he prespawned and you can vaguely hear it over the yelling.

 

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