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« on: December 05, 2015, 11:39:58 am »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPFA9Nl2y5E

here's a ten minute long video taken from miro's stream with obvious bunnyhop cheating going on aswell as all these guys discussing it. i put timestamps in the video's description if you don't want to listen to all of it.

the vod i uploaded to youtube is from here and in case it magically disappears, anyone can download it from this mirror http://www.tfbcf.site.nfoservers.com/Downloads/

i want to refresh everyone's memory and say that three of these players (supra, lock, danne) were confirmed smurfing with VPNs on multiple servers recently. as far as i know, there was no hard evidence of miro smurfing aswell but it is pretty obvious imo that he was the fourth swan.

now here's some cool quotes from the thread Luckylock made recently regarding these guys

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Honestly, I don't find it suspicous. I've seen and I've even gotten bhops like this..... I don't find any of it suspicous.


and i can't put multiple quotes without it working so just go back and read some some more for yourself, like this one here!

http://www.l4dnation.com/hackers-and-cheaters/are-these-legit-bhops-(scrim-against-some-russians)/msg45629/#msg45629

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Re: gg ez
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2015, 11:40:42 am »

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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2015, 11:43:30 am »
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Re: gg ez
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2015, 11:51:08 am »
Someone roast them please
$10 says you aren't anywhere near a controlling position of the L4D3 scene in any continent when it happens.

Thing is he does what he wants, cause his able to and we are letting him do that. He abuses hes place and power in this community and people like me get banned for no reason. Only thing visor wants is more and more control so he can do what ever he wants.

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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2015, 11:55:37 am »
A video of some people joking about and a guy who's already banned everywhere using a bunnyhop script, This is christmas come early, i'm salivating. As for Miro doing 6 bunnyhops, that's not exactly the most suspicious thing i've seen recently, I'm sure anyone else posting here can land 6 bhops on a lucky streak. Pitchforks out for Miro doing 6 bunnyhops!

E - this was pretty funny though, I approve!

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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2015, 11:56:44 am »
D A O L O L
« Last Edit: December 05, 2015, 12:22:51 pm by Ramirez™ »

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Re: gg ez
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2015, 12:05:50 pm »
As for Miro doing 6 bunnyhops, that's not exactly the most suspicious thing i've seen recently, I'm sure anyone else posting here can land 6 bhops on a lucky streak. Pitchforks out for Miro doing 6 bunnyhops!

Dawg I'm disappointed. You know too well what he's using and what he isn't using, and you know some of it is far worse than bhop. The fuck you doing defending him? Shake your head and push it against the wall with increased velocity, should fresh you up a bit. You're losing it.

As a matter of fact, he's doing those kind of "lucky streaks" more often than your dog is doing your slippers. Hope that prevents any blurring of the public impression.
$10 says you aren't anywhere near a controlling position of the L4D3 scene in any continent when it happens.

Thing is he does what he wants, cause his able to and we are letting him do that. He abuses hes place and power in this community and people like me get banned for no reason. Only thing visor wants is more and more control so he can do what ever he wants.

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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2015, 12:12:11 pm »
A video of some people joking about and a guy who's already banned everywhere using a bunnyhop script, This is christmas come early, i'm salivating. As for Miro doing 6 bunnyhops, that's not exactly the most suspicious thing i've seen recently, I'm sure anyone else posting here can land 6 bhops on a lucky streak. Pitchforks out for Miro doing 6 bunnyhops!

E - this was pretty funny though, I approve!

so going around playing with a guy whose banned ALMOST everywhere for cheating like you said is alright? haven't you said you've helped catch cheaters yourself? what's the point in catching them if you will play with them regardless? aswell as smurfing/VPN with the guy which is not harmless like you say it is. name one good intention you may have when you are going through those lengths to hide who you are because honestly i'd love to know.

also there was more to the video than just joking and miro's 6 bhops so nice try. miro has weird bhops throughout the entire video which is something i forgot to mention in my main post. i only timestamped that one moment because IIRC that was the most "suspicious" part.

btw what were you VAC banned for on your other account?
« Last Edit: December 05, 2015, 12:14:51 pm by ap »

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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2015, 12:38:29 pm »
so going around playing with a guy whose banned ALMOST everywhere for cheating like you said is alright? haven't you said you've helped catch cheaters yourself? what's the point in catching them if you will play with them regardless? aswell as smurfing/VPN with the guy which is not harmless like you say it is. name one good intention you may have when you are going through those lengths to hide who you are because honestly i'd love to know.

also there was more to the video than just joking and miro's 6 bhops so nice try. miro has weird bhops throughout the entire video which is something i forgot to mention in my main post. i only timestamped that one moment because IIRC that was the most "suspicious" part.

btw what were you VAC banned for on your other account?

I didn't say it's alright, I accept that fact that it makes people think badly of me and the others involved - Whether i care what people think of me or not is another matter entirely. I've had this conversation with Ika, I'm sure if you ask her she can tell you everything that I said to her.

Aside from the extremely obvious bunnyhop script everyone can see (which wasn't him), I don't think there's much to accuse miro of based on this video.

@ Visor, If i was sure about what miro used don't you think i'd bust him for it considering his team has beaten mine in the finals of two cups recently?
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Re: gg ez
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2015, 12:42:16 pm »
@ Visor, If i was sure about what miro used don't you think i'd bust him for it considering his team has beaten mine in the finals of two cups recently?

Being sure about something and having irrefutable proof for it are two wildly different things, which is why you can't do shit about him. But I'm not you and I don't need any proof to accuse and/or ban him whenever and wherever I deem necessary.
$10 says you aren't anywhere near a controlling position of the L4D3 scene in any continent when it happens.

Thing is he does what he wants, cause his able to and we are letting him do that. He abuses hes place and power in this community and people like me get banned for no reason. Only thing visor wants is more and more control so he can do what ever he wants.

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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2015, 01:08:21 pm »
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I can't help but feel like you're not being truthful with what you're saying.
 I do however see one example of suspicious activity - That being the bunnyhopping tank.

So how come when there was a thread and videos posted about the same guy, you say It was suspicious activity, But now that there is a video that proves it beyond a reasonable doubt you bring to light that he is a "known cheater"? Shouldn't that have been your first point in the other thread?

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Now do we as a community allow that?.

I don't know where the ideology that playing with people that not only do you KNOW cheat, but you egg on to cheat, absolves you or anyone else from just as much punishment as the cheaters themselves. Saying if we as a community allow that is mainly a joke, this community is far from a democracy. It's up to the server admins and tournament admins to decide if they want to put a foot down or allow it because at this point. Feels like anything goes in competitive l4d2 as long as you don't aimbot or insult an admin.
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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2015, 01:22:10 pm »
So how come when there was a thread and videos posted about the same guy, you say It was suspicious activity, But now that there is a video that proves it beyond a reasonable doubt you bring to light that he is a "known cheater"? Shouldn't that have been your first point in the other thread?

I don't know where the ideology that playing with people that not only do you KNOW cheat, but you egg on to cheat, absolves you or anyone else from just as much punishment as the cheaters themselves. Saying if we as a community allow that is mainly a joke, this community is far from a democracy. It's up to the server admins and tournament admins to decide if they want to put a foot down or allow it because at this point. Feels like anything goes in competitive l4d2 as long as you don't aimbot or insult an admin.

So me jokingly telling him that he "may bunnyjump" is akin to me actually cheating myself? I don't think so, The fact that he was already doing so kinda nullifies your point. Nobody is cheating based on my "orders" or anything ridiculous like that, people will do what they want and i'm not responsible for their actions. This game, against luckylock who had been blatently abusing his own cheats just a few hours earlier, this isn't a good example of a situation where I'm required to care about what people do. I've already said that this guy is banned in most places that matter, what are you trying to achieve? Would you like him to be rebanned?

Besides, You've played with these same people - infact you're about to play the EQ cup with Miro ect, You're not in any position to try and take the moral high ground here.

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« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2015, 01:43:16 pm »
You're right, It's not right of me to make these points and sign-up with them.

 
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twitch.tv/dustyhe7: and I gotta ask to be taken off EQ roster.

I never made the point that he cheated on your orders, and I never said you were responsible for his actions. But playing with someone you know cheats and laughing about their cheats does make you guilty as well. I don't get how luckylock or where this guy is or isn't banned is relevant at all, you should try responding to my original points before you try and change the topic. I can even restate them so that reading comprehension won't be an issue!

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So how come when there was a thread and videos posted about the same guy, you say It was suspicious activity, But now that there is a video that proves it beyond a reasonable doubt you bring to light that he is a "known cheater"? Shouldn't that have been your first point in the other thread?

Do you think that playing with people you know cheat is an okay thing to do? If a team knowingly plays with someone who cheats they should receive no punishment?



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Re: gg ez
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2015, 01:46:32 pm »
Before this cute chat continues, I must add that miro most certainly isn't going to play on EQ Cup #4.

You may resume your talk now.
$10 says you aren't anywhere near a controlling position of the L4D3 scene in any continent when it happens.

Thing is he does what he wants, cause his able to and we are letting him do that. He abuses hes place and power in this community and people like me get banned for no reason. Only thing visor wants is more and more control so he can do what ever he wants.

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« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2015, 01:58:22 pm »
I didn't say it's alright, I accept that fact that it makes people think badly of me and the others involved - Whether i care what people think of me or not is another matter entirely. I've had this conversation with Ika, I'm sure if you ask her she can tell you everything that I said to her.

i'm sure if all this bullshit got you guys banned or everyone refused to play against you, then you'd care.

I've already said that this guy is banned in most places that matter, what are you trying to achieve? Would you like him to be rebanned?

"this guy" just played an entire RBT on YOUR team and you obviously didn't give a fuck nor even mention anywhere that he should be barred from playing. no, you aren't cheating but you might as well be and deserve the same punishments as the cheaters. i'd like to think you in particular are smarter than this and would see how this is unacceptable of you. i honestly find it sad that you guys have not been banned from all the other servers yet after that entire swan fiasco.

 

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