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Re: CCT4 Grand Finals
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2015, 10:19:08 pm »
I don't believe Kingsmen intentionally glitched witch, but I do feel that after the first glitched witch it should have been on their mind to not stand in weird places while drawing it. If nothing else it seems like a lack of thoughtfulness for your opponents. Especially considering the witch was so early in the map on map 4 (less than 20%, before event or tank) and Whatever had requested a restart when it happened.

Seeing as both witches glitching did actually have an impact on the game (since it was with a quad cap up in both cases, which for obvious reasons can swing the game one way or the other) I will be requesting kingsmen to replay their half of map 4 with the same tank and witch spawns. Not as a "punishment" but for the sake of fair play. Having 2 of your witches bug out like this is equivalent to a tank bugging out and dying as it spawns in my opinion. I think replaying 2 maps would be excessive and unfair, and seeing as map 4 is the more important map (and the one that whatever requested a restart on) it seems right for that to be the one that is replayed.  In order to make sure this is fair for The Kingsmen, I will be giving them the option to make Whatever replay their half of that map as well. The Kingsmen must decide BEFORE playing their half if they would like Whatever to replay their half or not.

I don't want to hear any complaining about this because my decision is final. Also please don't claim NA bias or something cuz purple is my nigga. If you need a week extension to get the extra map done that's fine, but I don't think that should be necessary.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2015, 10:43:00 pm by Jacob »

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Re: CCT4 Grand Finals
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2015, 10:20:58 pm »
can someone fill me in what happened or post a vid / short clip?

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Re: CCT4 Grand Finals
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2015, 10:22:37 pm »

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Re: CCT4 Grand Finals
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2015, 10:25:24 pm »
Ok  so i just watched and idk why ppl are even talking about it but either that was an obvious accident or Grizz is a better actor than Tom Cruise.

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Re: CCT4 Grand Finals
« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2015, 10:28:12 pm »
It's not about whether it was intentional or not, 2 witches got bugged with quad caps up. It's the same call I would make if tank spawned and instantly died. This isn't a punishment, it's trying to avoid the finals being decided by l4d2 being glitchy. This will be my last post on the matter, like I said my decision is final.

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Re: CCT4 Grand Finals
« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2015, 10:29:49 pm »
Ok  so i just watched and idk why ppl are even talking about it but either that was an obvious accident or Grizz is a better actor than Tom Cruise.
regardless of intent, it's still pretty a major event to lose 2 witch+quadcap hits in 2 maps, and I don't think anyone is here for competitive coin flipping.

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Re: CCT4 Grand Finals
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2015, 10:53:26 pm »
I don't want to hear any complaining about this


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Re: CCT4 Grand Finals
« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2015, 10:56:22 pm »
I don't believe Kingsmen intentionally glitched witch, but I do feel that after the first glitched witch it should have been on their mind to not stand in weird places while drawing it. If nothing else it seems like a lack of thoughtfulness for your opponents. Especially considering the witch was so early in the map on map 4 (less than 20%, before event or tank) and Whatever had requested a restart when it happened.

Seeing as both witches glitching did actually have an impact on the game (since it was with a quad cap up in both cases, which for obvious reasons can swing the game one way or the other) I will be requesting kingsmen to replay their half of map 4 with the same tank and witch spawns. Not as a "punishment" but for the sake of fair play. Having 2 of your witches bug out like this is equivalent to a tank bugging out and dying as it spawns in my opinion. I think replaying 2 maps would be excessive and unfair, and seeing as map 4 is the more important map (and the one that whatever requested a restart on) it seems right for that to be the one that is replayed.  In order to make sure this is fair for The Kingsmen, I will be giving them the option to make Whatever replay their half of that map as well. The Kingsmen must decide BEFORE playing their half if they would like Whatever to replay their half or not.

I don't want to hear any complaining about this because my decision is final. Also please don't claim NA bias or something cuz purple is my nigga. If you need a week extension to get the extra map done that's fine, but I don't think that should be necessary.

We will discuss with the other nerds tomorrow before the second game.

Also is it even possible to have the same witch spawn, tank spawn, tank player?
« Last Edit: August 07, 2015, 10:59:51 pm by purple »

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Re: CCT4 Grand Finals
« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2015, 11:07:07 pm »
We will discuss with the other nerds tomorrow before the second game.

Also is it even possible to have the same witch spawn, tank spawn, tank player?

Yerp.
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Re: CCT4 Grand Finals
« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2015, 01:11:35 pm »
Ok  so i just watched and idk why ppl are even talking about it but either that was an obvious accident or Grizz is a better actor than Tom Cruise.

No fucking way

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Re: CCT4 Grand Finals
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2015, 02:14:57 pm »
Alright this has been a disaster of scheduling. Kingsmen didn't show up to the match last saturday (they cancelled 3 hours before the match) and then wanted to reschedule. They messaged sam all week and didn't get a response until yesterday, where sam said he could play at the time kekkeri was suggesting. Unfortunately sam's response was too late and kekkeri was already gone for the night thinking sam was still ignoring him. Personally I think both teams are responsible for this failure to schedule the final match, and neither team deserves the win... But I'm not gunna let this drag on any longer. I would like to hear other peoples opinions before I make my final decision.

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Re: CCT4 Grand Finals
« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2015, 02:29:54 pm »
Just thought I'd throw out there that my team has been in server twice now waiting to play. We've tried to be accommodating with times and such and agreed to pretty much any day or time that started after 5pm pst (we all work full time jobs and cant be playing l4d in the middle of the day). I even tried to re-schedule today for the billionth time but was basically told by kekkeri that he was seeking out a ffw.

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Re: CCT4 Grand Finals
« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2015, 02:56:48 pm »
DQ both teams. Give Velvet Room the win.

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Re: CCT4 Grand Finals
« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2015, 04:47:53 pm »
My version what happend.

First week I tried to organize the game on weekend about same time when we played on winner bracket finals. (21.00 CET) Somehow this didn't work anymore for them and they only wanted to play after 2.00 am (later on the week he said 3.00 am is better) <--- Finland time.

Second week we agree that we play friday-saturday night 2.30 am and saturday-sunday 2:30 am.
We played match 1. and we won ---> http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/447332904640583735/ABA71B5FCBBE42457872138E5123BA32C50F482A/ but they complain about how we took the witch. We unintentionally glitch the witch ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYF4BtX29oI Jacob decided that we need to play full survivor side again. Lost 1608 points in total score. 5450 - 1608 = 3842. So without the 4th map score from us final score would be 3842 - 3709 to The Kingsmen.
Next day valde couldn't play so I didn't wanna play the next game without main lineup. ---> NOTE <--- didn't wanna use sub.

Third week monday I was talking to sam about next match time. With sam's negative attitude and complaining that we didn't play second match, wasn't really nice to talk about match 2 schedule time. But I said that friday or saturday evening would be maybe ok for us. Tuesday I asked http://puu.sh/jACj0/bc30b96ef9.png and next day same thing. Thursday again no reply even tho I sent message. Friday same story. Saturday he was snooze :/ (purple told me during weekday or previous weekend about 23.00 my time that hann and bravo were playing and dusty was online. and I saw "asian" playing CS:GO. When this happend I asked to purple to ask one of them about match. They said no idea when we need to play.) ---> NOTE <--- they would actually use also sub to play earlier this game if sam would talk to his team and try to organize the game. Saturday evening I went to sleep because no reply and not gonna sit and wait if we play or not.

And now we are here. If I try to organize the game and talk to opponents leader every day and he doesn't reply... what i need to do?
« Last Edit: August 16, 2015, 04:56:25 pm by Kekkeri »

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Re: CCT4 Grand Finals
« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2015, 05:28:40 pm »
Alright here we go. First of all im on my phone driving so sorry for my lazyness in this message.

First of all I didnt bother watching that video because service is shit, but the fact that its 5 minutes long to show a witch. Rotflmao.

Second of all you glitched two witches in the game. The first one grizz says that she'll glitch out if you guys shoot her.
http://www.twitch.tv/elpsycongrizz/v/10082725?t=47m48s   (hopefully not deleted and I linked to correct part)
She is then killed which still grants 20 points I think.

I have no idea about all the scheduling shit. Sam gaves me like 3 times to play in the last week and everytime kekkeri was like gone or didnt come. Sorry that the time is 2-3 am finland time. Should we have 6 americans instead flex to play 1-5 am our times?

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