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« Reply #120 on: December 13, 2016, 08:41:43 am »
Agree with High Cookie on almost all of what he has said.

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« Reply #121 on: December 14, 2016, 03:18:30 am »
For those of you that want Uzi/SMG slowdown back in favor of making the tank it's original speed again -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E13-7rgim6U

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« Reply #122 on: December 14, 2016, 01:38:58 pm »
For those of you that want Uzi/SMG slowdown back in favor of making the tank it's original speed again -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E13-7rgim6U


yeeeaaaa nahhhh i'm good LMFAO damn the slowdown

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« Reply #123 on: December 14, 2016, 02:07:23 pm »
For those of you that want Uzi/SMG slowdown back in favor of making the tank it's original speed again -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E13-7rgim6U
let's tackle one thing at a time. first and foremost the uzi's need to be nerfed. go from there. i listed a lot of criticisms but addressing the uzi problem fixes most of them if only incidentally. daniel likes to say all the good players like acemod and these super uzi's as it is / they are. well daniel. i dont think that my good friend dr. kevin 'purple cow' kakkerich would be so inclined to agree with you after asking him yesterday. guess he's not good enough for u.

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« Reply #124 on: December 14, 2016, 02:36:08 pm »
purple sucks but he prefers acemod to promod, I have no doubts about that. I'm sure he also thinks slowdown is stupid. He'd just say that the uzi is too good, but every shotgun only player says that anyway so their opinions are kinda bias. The uzi required a buff and that's that. Go find promod 3.5 and pay for your own servers if you want to play it. Aside from that you're just going to have to suck it and play acemod.

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« Reply #125 on: December 14, 2016, 03:08:06 pm »

Acemod is very survivor heavy and that's it. Someone might not like but it's the most skill balanced mod that we have. Cause actually teams have to play like four players.
There's no more good tank that gonna E+SPACEBAR from the roof and wipe alone, you have to support. And your support has to be synced decently, like any attack on Acemod due to the OP weapons.
There's no front shotgun mad carrier that gonna do 49% mvp and eat 70% damage like ''who cares im not losing bonus after the first incap'', gotta watch yourself and the others way more.
There's no ''we are bad specials so let's go all on one and land a spit, it will be 200 damage anyway, couple spits every map and we did our job''.

I'm not sure how a scratching hunter is a problem, if you are AT LEAST clearing commons OR watching spawns you should see him coming. And eating 6 dmg or 12 if you are slow won't doom your team that much (especially on a mod where SI sucks). On another hand it will doom slightly the opponent team cause they will lose a key SI for they attack and good luck doing damage in 3 vs acemod guns lel

Carni 3 was a fairly ok map for good teams, now with spit nerf the first part is even way easier. Late tank is balanced, probably more than early ones. I agree that is a long and boring map but wathever.

Was shotgun in v3 a bit OP? Probably yes.
Is smg in v4 a bit OP? Probably yes, but at least you can't skeet everything and tank support (hunter pls) is hard to deal with.

Who cares, i doubt that we will ever reach total perfection in l4d2, even ultra competitive and played game are getting patched every two weeks for some minor fixes. But still Acemod fixed a lot of my complaints when i started to play this (i'm not a very old player ^_^).
And anyway Danne and Dusty gave us already enough argumentations about this topic. And they are top players AND pretty active players so their opinions are more or less representing a lot of very good players from both usa and europe.

Funny fact: while being very competitive and skill based, Acemod has became also the favourite mod of new competitive players  cause it's very rewarding: very funny survivor gameplay (rekt them SI), easily reaching saferoom and not a lot of wipes (0 depression).

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« Reply #126 on: December 14, 2016, 03:50:14 pm »
And anyway Danne and Dusty gave us already enough argumentations about this topic. And they are top players AND pretty active players so their opinions are more or less representing a lot of very good players from both usa and europe.

so we're just ignoring everyone else who said the uzi's are OP. why is one persons opinion more important to you than another? what about visor and jacob? i guess im not a top player since my opinion doesnt matter but somehow i can hold m1 and get easy suzi skeets but then i must be a top player if you said you cant do that so maybe then it does oh man maybe we can catch 22 other ppl and ask them

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« Reply #127 on: December 14, 2016, 04:59:57 pm »
so we're just ignoring everyone else who said the uzi's are OP
Mmm... no? No one is getting ignored.

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why is one persons opinion more important to you than another?

I like their argumentations, they have some solid basics about this game and still play it often and doing good, and their opinions are probably shared by a lot of good players cause usually in my personal experience only noobs cry about the removal of jumprocks or m2.

But i already stated this in my previous post. It's like a motivated ''+1'' since i like to explain my thoughts.
Also they are the first two that came in my mind, there are other solid opinions but i don't care about quoting everyone.

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what about visor and jacob?
What exactly? What should i say about them?

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i guess im not a top player since my opinion doesnt matter
No idea of who you are but you are guessing wrong cause i never said ALL good players think Acemod > Promod.
If you are not a top player the reasons are others i guess, but i repeat that i don't know you.

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somehow i can hold m1 and get easy suzi skeets
I talked about the OP smg gameplay vs OP Shotgun gameplay and an easy smg skeet is still harder than an easy shotgun skeet (and while the shotgun is usually worse than smg it's still needed in a lot of maps, while in v3 people often ignored completely smg).
I'm happy for you if you can skeet with SMG.

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then i must be a top player if you said you cant
Where i said i can't smg skeet? Especially being the smg/positional player in every team i played i don't think i have any issues with that weapon.

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« Reply #128 on: December 14, 2016, 06:21:19 pm »
i dont think danne and dusty represent everyone. i cant speak to the EU scene but the majority of US players ive talked to about it acknowledge that the smg is clearly overpowered. 

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« Reply #129 on: December 14, 2016, 06:39:49 pm »
Mmm... no? No one is getting ignored.

I'm being ignored  :'(

I keep saying don't nerf the uzi/smg back to it's useless state, just increase drop-off damage of both the uzi/smg and the shotguns because both do too much damage at longer distances. Everyone would much rather you have to stand and shoot like CS:GO with the uzi/smg rather than move and shoot like Quake.

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« Reply #130 on: December 15, 2016, 02:09:21 am »
i dont think danne and dusty represent everyone. i cant speak to the EU scene but the majority of US players ive talked to about it acknowledge that the smg is clearly overpowered.

I can't speak for everyone in EU, but most of the active people that are participating in tournaments/cups prefer Acemod. It's like sanchez said, it's the most competitive mod that's been around... at least in the last 3 years.
The thing is, where are we going? Do we build up cfg's for the casual mixplaying or do we build up cfg's for some kind of a competition? (funny to say in l4d2)

I'm very happy with Acemod how it is right now..

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« Reply #131 on: December 15, 2016, 12:12:40 pm »
I can't speak for everyone in EU, but most of the active people that are participating in tournaments/cups prefer Acemod. It's like sanchez said, it's the most competitive mod that's been around... at least in the last 3 years.
The thing is, where are we going? Do we build up cfg's for the casual mixplaying or do we build up cfg's for some kind of a competition? (funny to say in l4d2)

I'm very happy with Acemod how it is right now..
Im very happy for you but it seems that you to be in the 'vocal minority.' I feel if anyone could articulate this dillemma we have, it's xbye. He has firsthand witnessed years and years of matches in the competitive leagues. His stream has brought several pubs into the competitive scene and also given them an anomosity towards valve and their rigged game against him. He suggested that we nerf the uzi's because they are too OP now, but so they aren't useless like before.

No one wants them so that they are useless but as it stands now you can literally hold m1 down the whole map, m2 while you reload to get an even faster reload and you are practically untouchable and can clear your teammates from farther away then you think. Tank has to hide because the only chance he has is coming in w/ a full 6k on most situations. If shotguns were the OP weapon at least this wouldn't be the case.

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« Reply #132 on: December 15, 2016, 12:25:09 pm »
Looks like everyone who still plays the game at a decent level is content with how things are at the moment more or less, with a few small edits either way. Regardless, the config is about as good as it's going to get without any devs to work on it so i'm happy to leave it as is.
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« Reply #133 on: December 15, 2016, 12:42:31 pm »
Looks like everyone except jay is more or less happy with how things are, good talk.
actually no. People in this thread who aren't happy with the OP Uzi and how things are.

1. Dr. Kevin 'Purple' Kakkerich- best player in the game. everyone knows this.
2. Fig Newtons- admin of several US tourneys
3. WON - LTD admin
4. Impulsive - active player
5. Twisted - former member of Runnin' Krew and an active player
6. xbye- streamed matches for years and discovered the various faults of Gabe 'prodigysim' Newell and the valve corporation
7. Grizz -also one of the best players to ever play the game. He had a lot of hours but no one ever disputed how good grizz was.
8. NF - Developer of promod. Not advocating to revert  to promod but like me merely to ameliorate acemod so the SMG's aren't as OP.
9. Jacob - Developer of promod
10. Visor - Developer of ACEMOD who acknowledged that the smg's were too OP and were going to fix it before the Coup against him
11. Bravo - also one of the best player whos probably played in every single tournament since 2011. He's banned now but he is against these OP uzi's
12 . Moscow - also a great player. and active
13. Elusive - hosting tournament with a really cool banner.
14. sheriff shade - the beacon of light in the darkness of night. the hero that ltd needs. takes the law into his own hands to combat the internet trolls and put aside his own desires to affect positive change for the ltd community.

And this is only in the thread. u guys are clearly outnumbered in this thread but like i said before the posting community has always been a fraction of the people who play.

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« Reply #134 on: December 15, 2016, 12:50:16 pm »
actually no. People in this thread who aren't happy with the OP Uzi and how things are.

1. Dr. Kevin 'Purple' Kakkerich- best player in the game. everyone knows this.
2. Fig Newtons- admin of several US tourneys
3. WON - LTD admin
4. Impulsive - active player
5. Twisted - former member of Runnin' Krew and an active player
6. xbye- streamed matches for years and discovered the various faults of Gabe 'prodigysim' Newell and the valve corporation
7. Grizz -also one of the best players to ever play the game. He had a lot of hours but no one ever disputed how good grizz was.
8. NF - Developer of promod. Not advocating to revert  to promod but like me merely to ameliorate acemod so the SMG's aren't as OP.
9. Jacob - Developer of promod
10. Visor - Developer of ACEMOD who acknowledged that the smg's were too OP and were going to fix it before the Coup against him
11. Bravo - also one of the best player whos probably played in every single tournament since 2011. He's banned now but he is against these OP uzi's
12 . Moscow - also a great player. and active
13. Elusive - hosting tournament with a really cool banner.
14. sheriff shade - the beacon of light in the darkness of night. the hero that ltd needs. takes the law into his own hands to combat the internet trolls and put aside his own desires to affect positive change for the ltd community.

And this is only in the thread. u guys are clearly outnumbered in this thread but like i said before the posting community has always been a fraction of the people who play.

All inactive and none in vehement opposition to acemod, just have small aspects of it that they dislike. None who have l4d2 installed will deny that uzis required a buff if the slowdown is to be removed.

 

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