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Re: Announcing CCR²T
« Reply #45 on: May 25, 2015, 01:29:26 pm »
We have 15 teams for our Russian-based tournament - http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DeAdEQ#announcements/detail/164724171586020726 and you have 8 (or whatever number of teams) for Reflux tournaement.

Yeah, lets just ignore home/away system and make tourney for 8 teams instead of huge* international cup.

*by current means

I would prefer to play in tournament with 8 teams than joining tournament which allows cheaters to join in it.
« Last Edit: May 25, 2015, 03:37:22 pm by Kekkeri »

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Re: Announcing CCR²T
« Reply #46 on: May 25, 2015, 01:36:00 pm »
I think the 8 teams has more to do with reflux / custom maps than the fact that I'm not forcing them to play on 200 ping. I haven't heard a single NA team say "darn I was really planning on signing up for ccrt, but then I found out I would be forced to play with 40 ping." But thanks for the feedback!!

edit: Also "omg wtf!?! why don't you make your russian tourney international???"  ::)
« Last Edit: May 25, 2015, 01:55:52 pm by Jacob »

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Re: Announcing CCR²T
« Reply #47 on: May 25, 2015, 02:00:09 pm »
Because they are using the outdated EQ 1.3, which I believe is easier than Promod by modern standards. That's the only reason why so many teams participate; after the european Fresh tourney, they realized that older, unbalanced configs are, for some, the only way of even having a chance against mighty nerds with 200hr per 2 weeks.
$10 says you aren't anywhere near a controlling position of the L4D3 scene in any continent when it happens.

Thing is he does what he wants, cause his able to and we are letting him do that. He abuses hes place and power in this community and people like me get banned for no reason. Only thing visor wants is more and more control so he can do what ever he wants.

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Re: Announcing CCR²T
« Reply #48 on: May 25, 2015, 02:09:47 pm »
Well... Maybe in the future when you organize another tournament. You should maybe try qualifier from different regions. so everybody can play with decent ping :)

example.
Regions group stage: eu vs eu / ru vs ru / na vs na / asia vs asia
Regions Playoffs: eu vs eu / ru vs ru / na vs na / asia vs asia (Top 2 teams every regions go to final bracket)
Final Bracket: home/away server or server when players has equal ping.

Edit: To Jacob :)
« Last Edit: May 25, 2015, 02:11:50 pm by Kekkeri »

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Re: Announcing CCR²T
« Reply #49 on: May 25, 2015, 02:23:04 pm »
I think the 8 teams has more to do with reflux / custom maps than the fact that I'm not forcing them to play on 200 ping. I haven't heard a single NA team say "darn I was really planning on signing up for ccrt, but then I found out I would be forced to play with 40 ping." But thanks for the feedback!!

edit: Also "omg wtf!?! why don't you make your russian tourney international???"  ::)

I would rather the CCRT have home and away games starting at the qualifying stage in response to attract more international teams. I wouldn't mind playing an a foreign server if it means playing in a tourney with more than 8 teams.

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Re: Announcing CCR²T
« Reply #50 on: May 25, 2015, 03:08:01 pm »
Well... Maybe in the future when you organize another tournament. You should maybe try qualifier from different regions. so everybody can play with decent ping :)

example.
Regions group stage: eu vs eu / ru vs ru / na vs na / asia vs asia
Regions Playoffs: eu vs eu / ru vs ru / na vs na / asia vs asia (Top 2 teams every regions go to final bracket)
Final Bracket: home/away server or server when players has equal ping.

Edit: To Jacob :)

Keep dreaming Kekkeri. Don't see the Americans adopting this anytime soon.

Edit: To Dragon :)

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Re: Announcing CCR²T
« Reply #51 on: May 26, 2015, 04:23:38 am »
Jacob,
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I think the 8 teams has more to do with reflux / custom maps than the fact that I'm not forcing them to play on 200 ping.
Nobody wants to play with only red ping when they can play with comfortable green. I had conversation with some of NonStop's players and some other teams - also I try to gather my own tim and already tried USA cup, so believe me - that is like exact reason why european/russian teams are not interested.

Single example of opposite can be Scavenge cup which have only 4 teams now but probably it's because Scavenge is boring mode without tanks, horde and chokepoints.

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I haven't heard a single NA team say "darn I was really planning on signing up for ccrt, but then I found out I would be forced to play with 40 ping." But thanks for the feedback!!
Not sure what you meant by that. Elaborate please. I don't see any sense here since NA teams will have perfect playable ping on CCRT.

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dit: Also "omg wtf!?! why don't you make your russian tourney international???"
Because its not mine tournament and if it was mine (and I would not wanted to make it fastcup) you can be sure I would do it.

Kekkeri, I suggested this idea few weeks ago and noone gave enough fucks I guess.
« Last Edit: May 26, 2015, 04:25:15 am by iamSun »

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Re: Announcing CCR²T
« Reply #52 on: May 26, 2015, 05:34:06 am »
Jacob, Nobody wants to play with only red ping when they can play with comfortable green. I had conversation with some of NonStop's players and some other teams - also I try to gather my own tim and already tried USA cup, so believe me - that is like exact reason why european/russian teams are not interested.

Using team Non Stop as an example isn't exactly the best thing to do, they're the kind of team that refuses to play on New York servers in a scrim against a team consisting of West Coast players, even though they'd still have better pings than the Americano's.
European teams are almost always forcing American teams to play on EU servers, it's quite sad to see tbh.

I personally would love participating in this cup, but I don't have a team and the euros run in fear when you mention orange ping.
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Re: Announcing CCR²T
« Reply #53 on: May 26, 2015, 05:57:00 am »
Kekkeri, I suggested this idea few weeks ago and noone gave enough fucks I guess.
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Re: Announcing CCR²T
« Reply #54 on: May 26, 2015, 07:55:44 am »
I'll play in that cup because of no melee weapons, I just wanna see L4D2 players burn without it ah yeah and custom maps are cool :P

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Re: Announcing CCR²T
« Reply #55 on: May 26, 2015, 12:04:46 pm »


Jacob, Nobody wants to play with only red ping when they can play with comfortable green. I had conversation with some of NonStop's players and some other teams - also I try to gather my own tim and already tried USA cup, so believe me - that is like exact reason why european/russian teams are not interested.

European teams are almost always forcing American teams to play on EU servers, it's quite sad to see tbh.
This. As a west-coast US player, I dislike playing on anything that isn't Texas, simply because it offers the best ping available to everyone in the United States. Whenever I'm playing a PUG, if there is a european I'm always one of the first to advocate for a New York server to meet half-way (even though I get orange, if not near red-ping. I can handle anywhere from 30 - 100ms ping).

However, every time I come across a PCW it seems to always be the same with europeans. They pick a server where I get 170ms, and they somewhere around 20ms (yes, 20ms) or 40ms and are completely unwilling to give up some of that precious green ping to meet us half-way in New York (which would give everyone pretty much orange ping with maybe a few green. Even after we play on their home servers, it seems that euro PCW teams always have "something to do" afterwards and won't rematch on a New York server.

This is all made me pretty damn salty towards europeans. IAmSunn is guilty of doing this too.

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Re: Announcing CCR²T
« Reply #56 on: May 26, 2015, 12:48:42 pm »
Update: If we don't get >20 teams then the format is going to be changed to a double elim bracket and the prizes are gunna be reduced.

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Re: Announcing CCR²T
« Reply #57 on: May 26, 2015, 01:19:16 pm »
Iamsun is from Siberia. He pings like shit everywhere, even on Moscow servers.
$10 says you aren't anywhere near a controlling position of the L4D3 scene in any continent when it happens.

Thing is he does what he wants, cause his able to and we are letting him do that. He abuses hes place and power in this community and people like me get banned for no reason. Only thing visor wants is more and more control so he can do what ever he wants.

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Re: Announcing CCR²T
« Reply #58 on: May 26, 2015, 03:39:06 pm »
I'll play in that cup because of no melee weapons, I just wanna see L4D2 players burn without it ah yeah and custom maps are cool :P

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Re: Announcing CCR²T
« Reply #59 on: May 26, 2015, 04:40:22 pm »
We need to remove all pug groups and mumbles and become a team-based community... . too much pug-lyfe...

Will never happen tho  :'(

 

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